Have I won fights: yes. Have I lost fights, yes. You get into too many fights.
DerAuslander
12/16/2010 5:01pm,
I need a kunoichi...
Uncle Skippy
12/16/2010 5:06pm,
Am I a cop: no. Currently in the application processes. My reference to Bujinkan being better suited to law enforcement was not intended to imply it was BEST suited for law enforcement. The joint lock techniques taught to officers are identical to those used in Bujinkan, and other MAs.
What is the extent of your law enforcement education, training, and/or preparation?
What classes, degrees, or certifications have you attained?
BJJ isn't something I want to learn as a primary skill because I don't want to try and take someone down by getting on the ground with them.
A couple of things here:
- BJJ has techniques when on your feet
- BJJ has techniques to avoid being taken to the ground yourself
- BJJ has techniques that, if you are taken to the ground against your will, can help you survive and get back to your feet quickly.
It isn't the end-all, but it is a lot more than you assume.
holy-shinto
12/16/2010 5:26pm,
If I had my pick to study in other styles, I'd probably choose to study multiple: eskrima, krav magga, BJJ, to be honest I'd like to try many styles, but as I stated Bujinkan was available. When I said I respect all styles I shouldn't have been so general; yeah there are some that are out there or impractical. What I should have said was I respect any dedicated student.
I'm sorry for the generality of my first post; it was late and I had no idea it would be taken so seriously, also I'm sorry for the lack of paragraphs. I am not here to offend or insult anyone, nor will I acknowledge those who offend or insult me. I joined to learn about strengths and weaknesses of other styles and my own because I want to be a we'll rounded martial artist and for me that includes having the humility to admit faults and weaknesses.
I'm not against talking about fights if the questions are sincere and for the purpose of discussion of what went wrong or how could I have reacted more effectively. If I made it sound like I've been in a lot of fights, not all were hostile situations, many were between friends so naturally they don't count. As for real fights, I grew up in a rough city where trouble finds you. That doesn't make me tough, if anything it makes me careful.
Sorry for the frustration I've caused anyone, I wouldn't disrespect a fellow martial artist.
DerAuslander
12/16/2010 5:38pm,
You make Zombie Chris Farley cry.
Styygens
12/16/2010 5:46pm,
Holy Shinto -- You're halfway there.
Please keep in mind that the "no-holds-barred" discussion here is the verbal equivalent of sparring. Keep lurking. Post when you believe you have something insightful. You ought to consider a thread Newbietown thread to provide some information about yourself.
Grow a thick skin and don't take BS.net too seriously. You'll be fine.
Permalost
12/16/2010 5:47pm,
I have seen some people criticize Bujinkans origins based on the fact that some accounts of Ninjas describe their ability to disappear, fly, climb wall or trees with bare hands, and deliver one-strike kills, etc. They act as if this is a modern Bujinkan practitioners claims of their own abilities; based on this they discredit the art, not realizing this was simply lore surrounding the Ninjas abilities.
They could become just another Japanese jujutsu school over night if they ditched the ninja apparel (like they used to).
judoka_uk
12/16/2010 6:21pm,
I wouldn't disrespect a fellow martial artist.
As a Judo non expert I won't talk about anyone here.
If I had my pick to study in other styles, I'd probably choose to study multiple: eskrima, krav magga, BJJ, to be honest I'd like to try many styles, but as I stated Bujinkan was available. When I said I respect all styles I shouldn't have been so general; yeah there are some that are out there or impractical. What I should have said was I respect any dedicated student.
So what experience, art wise, do you have, outside of the booj? How long have you trained in the booj? Also, why pick the arts for your list? It looks like a random assembly of fashionable arts, not because of their merit, just because you heard they are cool.
callum828
12/16/2010 8:00pm,
I love threads like these. I'm sure the long-time members get tired of them, but the novelty still hasn't worn off for me.
I'm gonna echo the general consensus and say the best art for LE would be a grappling art that allows you to restrain people, so, Judo or BJJ. You could technically argue that the Booj is grappling, but there's far too much focus on traditional weapons, 'deadly' strikes and very little non-compliant training.
goodlun
12/16/2010 8:09pm,
A couple of things here:
- BJJ has techniques when on your feet
- BJJ has techniques to avoid being taken to the ground yourself
- BJJ has techniques that, if you are taken to the ground against your will, can help you survive and get back to your feet quickly.
It isn't the end-all, but it is a lot more than you assume.
To ecco this post.
One of the things I have noticed as I get more mat time with BJJ is I am actually starting to spend a lot of time standing. I often stand up in order to pass guard or to even get up off my back to get back to a more neutral position.
He's being pretty reasonable. I think some slack cutting is in order. (damn Christmas Spirit)
Rock Ape
12/16/2010 10:55pm,
In all the Bujinkan videos I've seen, stabbing furiously was never a big part of it.No, but for their godan test they try to hit each other over the head from behind, with a stick.
That's a useful self defence skill to have.
Rock Ape
12/16/2010 10:56pm,
I wouldn't disrespect a fellow martial artist.I would, and you've almost made my **** list.
goodlun
12/16/2010 11:11pm,
I think the next logical course of action would to be to invite him to the next throw down in his area and to see how well he truly does in getting out of an arm bar.
Rock Ape
12/17/2010 12:01am,
Is that before or after the break ? (of the arm, not refreshments)
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